DiscoGel... No it's not a dance!

[ADR seeker]

GELSCOM - Administration of DiscoGel

As near as I can tell this is a gelled alcohol that is injected into a herniated or otherwise damaged disk. Six weeks after the injection the herniation resolves.

I don't know if it is available in the US but my guess is if it works and is inexpensive, safe and effective you probably have to go outside the US to get it.

Fixmybackdisc.com - Discogel Injection - YouTube
Here is a video of the procedure. Some bleeding. Patient is awake.

Let's see what we can find out.

[jsewell]

I did read some of the info, it sounds wonderful, still skeptical though.
judy

[mmglobal]

From their website... The 96% pure ethyl alcohol produces necrosis of disc tissue. Necrotic tissue is dead.

This reminds me of chymopapaine... an enzyme that is injected into the disc herniation to dissolve it. It worked well and is still used in many countries. The problem with chymopapaine is that the enzyme didn't know when to stop 'digesting' tissue. When less bright doctors though... ."wow, if 500 units is good... 4000 units must be better", serious damage was done. There were also fatal allergic reactions. Now they test for allergies before administering it. Properly applied, it can be like magic.

It seems that the discogel theory is similar. However, it is simply killing disc nucleus tissue so that it will be resorbed, shrinking the herniation. this seems promising in certain applications, however, it does nothing to address the degenerative changes in the disc. Disc volume is further reduced. Mechanical problems are not addressed.

I believe this will work in cases where simply shrinking the herniation will decompress a nerve, but most of the cases I've been involved in will be too far down the degenerative cascade for this to be a reasonable solution.

I wonder about the potential damage when the injectant goes where it is not intended. Damage to the annulus? Save in the spinal canal? Safe around the spinal cord?

Thanks for posting... this does sound promising for some of us. I hope that my concerns prove to be unfounded!

Mark

[cherylstewart67]

Originally Posted by mmglobal

From their website... The 96% pure ethyl alcohol produces necrosis of disc tissue. Necrotic tissue is dead.

This reminds me of chymopapaine... an enzyme that is injected into the disc herniation to dissolve it. It worked well and is still used in many countries. The problem with chymopapaine is that the enzyme didn't know when to stop 'digesting' tissue. When less bright doctors though... ."wow, if 500 units is good... 4000 units must be better", serious damage was done. There were also fatal allergic reactions. Now they test for allergies before administering it. Properly applied, it can be like magic.

It seems that the discogel theory is similar. However, it is simply killing disc nucleus tissue so that it will be resorbed, shrinking the herniation. this seems promising in certain applications, however, it does nothing to address the degenerative changes in the disc. Disc volume is further reduced. Mechanical problems are not addressed.

I believe this will work in cases where simply shrinking the herniation will decompress a nerve, but most of the cases I've been involved in will be too far down the degenerative cascade for this to be a reasonable solution.

I wonder about the potential damage when the injectant goes where it is not intended. Damage to the annulus? Save in the spinal canal? Safe around the spinal cord?

Thanks for posting... this does sound promising for some of us. I hope that my concerns prove to be unfounded!

Mark

this is a good question.

[jsewell]

All good points Mark

Judy

[cherylstewart67]

kind of funny, not haha funny,, that they put a word that also means a dance from the 70's