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Old 02-11-2012, 12:04 AM
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we are all here asking for help and ideas. we have all of these tests and mri's ...it seems most people here are interested in adr. we are all leary of surgery and want to get off the pain meds. wouldn't it just be so much simpler if the insur co and fda got off their asses and just approved the multi level adr so that we can move on? why why why, don't they see it would save money and quality of life for everyone? in stead we sit here afraid of making the next move, flying over seas to seek help, spending money we don't really have. i just want to get better so i can lead a productive life with my husband...we are all hoping for a miracle to come along.
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female age 45, height 5"6", 145 lbds, non smoker, conservative treatments failed, (7/2007) C4/5/6 peek disc replacements,plate & screws failed fusion,
(9/2008) revision with bone replace plate and screws, (10/2009) C3/4 stand alone peek cage, (12/2010) facet joint injections C3-7, (1/2011) rhizotomy C6/7 failed, Trouble swallowing
most recent mri (7/2011) shows ajacent level issues: right neural foraminal narrowing C2/3, posterior bulge indents thecal sac at C6/7/T1 no mass effect on cord.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:45 PM
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I can only speak from my experience. If a spine is in such a state that it needs that kind of procedure, ADR will probably not give the stability that fusions would.

For multi level problems, I am in favor of single ADR on top of a fusion.

I wonder how many ADR patients are walking around that have "Auto fused" and don't even know it. I was one until I seen an Xray several months later.
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:33 PM
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we are all here asking for help and ideas. we have all of these tests and mri's ...it seems most people here are interested in adr. we are all leary of surgery and want to get off the pain meds. wouldn't it just be so much simpler if the insur co and fda got off their asses and just approved the multi level adr so that we can move on? why why why, don't they see it would save money and quality of life for everyone? in stead we sit here afraid of making the next move, flying over seas to seek help, spending money we don't really have. i just want to get better so i can lead a productive life with my husband...we are all hoping for a miracle to come along.
Check out this.

GELSCOM - Administration of DiscoGel

It's called discoGel. I still no little about it but it makes more sense than most of the crap they do.
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:53 PM
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Check out this.

GELSCOM - Administration of DiscoGel

It's called discoGel. I still no little about it but it makes more sense than most of the crap they do.
very interesting. i look forward to reading more. thank you!
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female age 45, height 5"6", 145 lbds, non smoker, conservative treatments failed, (7/2007) C4/5/6 peek disc replacements,plate & screws failed fusion,
(9/2008) revision with bone replace plate and screws, (10/2009) C3/4 stand alone peek cage, (12/2010) facet joint injections C3-7, (1/2011) rhizotomy C6/7 failed, Trouble swallowing
most recent mri (7/2011) shows ajacent level issues: right neural foraminal narrowing C2/3, posterior bulge indents thecal sac at C6/7/T1 no mass effect on cord.
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:59 PM
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I can only speak from my experience. If a spine is in such a state that it needs that kind of procedure, ADR will probably not give the stability that fusions would.

For multi level problems, I am in favor of single ADR on top of a fusion.

I wonder how many ADR patients are walking around that have "Auto fused" and don't even know it. I was one until I seen an Xray several months later.
everytime i get a fusion it lead to more ajacent level ddd. if i can't get adr, it's nothing.
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(9/2008) revision with bone replace plate and screws, (10/2009) C3/4 stand alone peek cage, (12/2010) facet joint injections C3-7, (1/2011) rhizotomy C6/7 failed, Trouble swallowing
most recent mri (7/2011) shows ajacent level issues: right neural foraminal narrowing C2/3, posterior bulge indents thecal sac at C6/7/T1 no mass effect on cord.
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:29 AM
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everytime i get a fusion it lead to more ajacent level ddd. if i can't get adr, it's nothing.
I am disgusted that the modern ADRs are not available in North America. I an constantly contacting senators and congressmen about this outrage. Hopefully one of those crooks will suffer with failed surgery and the medical run around.

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Old 02-22-2012, 11:42 PM
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I am disgusted that the modern ADRs are not available in North America. I an constantly contacting senators and congressmen about this outrage. Hopefully one of those crooks will suffer with failed surgery and the medical run around.

Advocate.
As a Christian I know that I should not think things like this, but I totally feel the same way! I also think about it for the insurance companies that decide not to cover it! People don't care until it effects them.
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female age 45, height 5"6", 145 lbds, non smoker, conservative treatments failed, (7/2007) C4/5/6 peek disc replacements,plate & screws failed fusion,
(9/2008) revision with bone replace plate and screws, (10/2009) C3/4 stand alone peek cage, (12/2010) facet joint injections C3-7, (1/2011) rhizotomy C6/7 failed, Trouble swallowing
most recent mri (7/2011) shows ajacent level issues: right neural foraminal narrowing C2/3, posterior bulge indents thecal sac at C6/7/T1 no mass effect on cord.
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Old 02-23-2012, 06:26 PM
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Cheryl that is so true that most people do not care until it effects them. They need to be able to walk a mile in another mans shoes.
judy
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2007 ACDF 4-7
2008 hip , knee scope, hip replacement
2009 thoracic T-5 thru T-11fusion
2009 VATS T7-8, posterior only T11-12. removal of thoracic hard wear
2010 lung surgery
2010 T2-L2 kyphosis correction
2010 Kyphoplasty T-3, T-4
2011 Cervical osteotomy ,revision C4-T5
2011 Foot surgery
2011 Revision fusion T7 thru L4/laminectomy
2012 Hammertoe correction left foot
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Old 02-25-2012, 12:37 AM
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Cheryl that is so true that most people do not care until it effects them. They need to be able to walk a mile in another mans shoes.
judy
or crawl as it seems i must do sometimes when the pain is so bad!
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(9/2008) revision with bone replace plate and screws, (10/2009) C3/4 stand alone peek cage, (12/2010) facet joint injections C3-7, (1/2011) rhizotomy C6/7 failed, Trouble swallowing
most recent mri (7/2011) shows ajacent level issues: right neural foraminal narrowing C2/3, posterior bulge indents thecal sac at C6/7/T1 no mass effect on cord.
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