Peyton Manning Fusion

cp7959 · #1 (**permalink**) 09-19-2011, 02:16 PM

For those who do not know who Peyton Manning is, he is one of the greatest NFL Quarterbacks of all Time and plays for the Indianapolis Colts. Over the past few years he was having Cervical problems. At the end of last season he had a Foramenotomy. Well that didn't seem to help to much. So a few weeks ago he under went a Cervical Fusion.

This guy make's 10's of millions of dollars a year and is probably worth well over $100 million.He has access to the best surgeons in the world. Before his fusion he consulted with several spine surgeons.

So here's my question. Why did ADR never come up as a solution for him? Why did all the surgeons he consulted with recommend Fusion? Is there something that us potential ADR patients want that is really unrealistic to the vast majority? You got to think if ADR was the right thing to do,Manning would have had it done and by the best surgeons.

I know everyone is different, but appreciate any thoughts.

Maria · #2 (**permalink**) 09-19-2011, 02:43 PM

That he was even a candidate for ADR surgery? Maybe that's the reason he didn't have this type of surgery.

cp7959 · #3 (**permalink**) 09-19-2011, 03:49 PM

The reports on Manning where a Herniated Disk. So unless there is something that is not being reported, ADR would seem like an option?

I've often wondered what are the contradictions to not having ADR surgery? Other than a slipped vertebrae. Many Dr's that are mentioned on these boards will operate on most cases.

I can't speak for everyone, but I have a feeling that single level fusions may just be the right fix for most people. We here the horror stories on the internet, Part of that could be all the success stories have moved on with their lives.

My own personal experience is I am doing much better with the fusions in my neck than I did with the ADR's. But then again my ADR's where at Stenum. My fusions and ADR revisions where here in the states.

However if I had to do a lower back I think I would go for the ADR.

Maria · #4 (**permalink**) 09-19-2011, 04:56 PM

I tried to look up Peyton Mannings surgical status information that might have been written about on the web (if it may have been) and was unsuccessful as I'm experiencing some computer probs so I wouldn't know with regard to why he didn't have ADR vs. fusion.

From what I've read there seems to be a fair number of good outcomes with cervical ADR. Lumbar ADR seems to go well for some and not for others.

As with most spine surgery I tend to think that's how it goes~ some works well for some and not for others.

Nice to hear you're doing much better with the fused level(s) and hope that you continue to do well! Thanks for adding that info!

dshobbies · #5 (**permalink**) 09-19-2011, 05:22 PM

The truth is we don't know what his reasons for choosing fusion were and probably never will. His specifics are his to share or not.

However, my first thought - especially if he plans to remain in the sport is that probably ADRs can't take the abuse that solid bone can. His head will be yanked in all directions and hit hard. What would happen to an ADR when it's forced to go where it doesn't belong?

Just my thoughts - Dale

phenom34 · #6 (**permalink**) 11-16-2011, 02:09 AM

Im guessing it has to do with strength. They know successful fusions can be quite rigid, they arent sure exactly how rigid ADR's are in NFL collisions.

ADR seeker · #7 (**permalink**) 11-21-2011, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dshobbies

The truth is we don't know what his reasons for choosing fusion were and probably never will. His specifics are his to share or not.

However, my first thought - especially if he plans to remain in the sport is that probably ADRs can't take the abuse that solid bone can. His head will be yanked in all directions and hit hard. What would happen to an ADR when it's forced to go where it doesn't belong?

Just my thoughts - Dale

That's what I think.

With the M6 and the Neo Disk there is still metal hardware. I think that the NeoDisk would have been his best choice. I think his career is over.

What they should do is install the NeoDisk using screws made from bone. If surgeons were smart they would use a tap and die set to make threads and then screw the disk in to place.

The other thing is this. Even rich people get bad medical advice. If Peyton had gone to England and had Nick Booree install th Neo Disk it would be big news and Americans would be clamoring for it. Time will tell if his fusion works. I suspect that it won't.

Also if an ADR were to fail or fail catastrophically it would be bad press for the manufacturer and as we know the ball and socket designs available in the US have higher failure rates than the M6 or the Neo Disk do to their less than elegant design.

At this point Manning should retire. Why risk being paralyzed?