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iSpine Discuss Does discography damage the discs? in the Main forums forums; A few days ago Crystal posted an abstract by Dr. Carragee (below) about the risk of damaging the disc with ... |
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![]() A few days ago Crystal posted an abstract by Dr. Carragee (below) about the risk of damaging the disc with discography. Thank you Crystal! This is a great subject that deserves its own thread. I'm sure this will be a great discussion.
The question, “does discography damage a healthy disc” is something that’s been discussed on the forums for years. The abstract that Crystal posted below really piqued my interest. I’ve discussed this extensively with dozens of leading surgeons and pain management doctors over the years. Many will say that poking a small gauged needle through the “radial ply” fibers of the annulus is much like poking a knitting needle through a knit wool sweater. That would do no discernible damage, whereas, poking a pin through a silk blouse will ruin it. Some doctors are discography naysayers. I think that's more about the results controversy than the damage to the disc. Early discography techniques that were fraught with errors. I think much of the bad rap is dogma associated with the old horror stories. Discography done on a degenerated disc may be another story. Some of the doctors will still say it’s harmless, while others will concede that in a severely degenerated disc discography may push it over the edge. This would not necessarily be from the damage to the annulus. IMHO, this is more likely from an existing protrusion that would be exacerbated by pressurizing the disc, lubricating and increasing the nucleus volume. My second discography was only at L5-S1 to rule it out. We were hoping that I was a single level candidate. I could have been one of the first US Charite’ patients. About three weeks after the discography my left foot went numb. Until that point, I had no radiculopathy associated with my L5-S1 disc. While there was a substantial bulge, there was no frank protrusion at the time of the discography. Remarkably, an MRI a few weeks later showed a new, large (15mm) protrusion at L5-S1. While nobody could say what happened, I do believe that the discography substantially increased the risk of, or may have actually caused the protrusion. For years, when my clients had asked me about doing discography that was recommended by their surgeons, I have usually suggested that they should only do the discography if they are prepared to follow through with treatment if the discography is positive. With their risk of discography making a very bad disc and worse I believe that it's a mistake to have discography unless you have been through the decision making process and field that your situation justifies having surgery if the discography is positive. There is no such thing as risk free access anywhere in the spine. Control levels have been thought of as important, but the idea of poking and needle into a healthy disc makes me wonder. I believe that discography is still an important and useful tool that increases the probability of a correct diagnosis. However, it is not the be all, end all definitive test. It’s just another useful tool. Technique is important. A poorly done discography can cloud the situation. Under the best of circumstances, there may still be a risk of false positive or false negative results. If I need to rule levels in or out, all still have discography. This is a very interesting study. I look forward to seeing where this goes as the science improves. Let the discussion begin! Mark Quote:
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