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Rebound Myelopathy
In order to answer necknoses question on the Removal of bone spurring thread, I have resurrected a post from Google's cache of lost Braintalk archives.
The post and part of the discussion can be found here. Quote:
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1997 MVA 2000 L4-5 Microdiscectomy/laminotomy 2001 L5-S1 Micro-d/lami 2002 L4-S1 Charite' ADR - SUCCESS! 2009 C3-C4, C5-C6-C7, T1-T2 ProDisc-C Nova Summer 2009, more bad thoracic discs! Life After Surgery Website President: Global Patient Network, Inc. Founder: www.iSpine.org |
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Mark - just read this article again and it has me wondering about whether ADR is appropriate for my own situation.
Just wondering what your general experience has been for clients with cervical myelopathy that have had ADR? I've had some fusion surgeons opposed to ADR for myelopathy (they oppose ADR for everything though), and I haven't seen any really useful studies on it. Also my understanding is that myelopathy is a difficult situation for surgeons to address regardless of technique (the success rate for myelopathy for fusions is far less predictable than for pure radiculopathy as I understand it.). e.g. the standard figures I've heard from surgeons for surgery for myelopathy are 20% continue to get worse, 40% stabilise and 40% improve. Most people with myelopathy are looking for stabilisation of symptoms at the minimum - is ADR proving to be succesful in stabilising myelopathic symptoms? Another sort of related question - how difficult is a revision to fusion for an ADR patient? thanks, Rob
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snowboarding injury 1997 landed on head, some subluxation of cervical vertebrae no surgery, some ongoing neck and shoulder pain but bearable. surfing injury 2004 - transient paralysis from neck down for 15 seconds, resolved fully - herniated c5/c6 disc plus some bulging at c3/4/5. Initially had dermatome pain after injury which resolved - general parasthesia in arms/legs was fairly mild after injury but has been worsening. |
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Rob...
I see too many cases with conflicting opinions of surgeons. More traditional or more conservative is not always safer or better. Yesterday I was contacted by someone who wants info about Bradley... the 6-level cervical guy. It caused me to rekindle contacts and he's still doing great. EVERY other surgeon he went to told him that the not fusing his skull to his thoracic spine was nuts. We are not talking about surgeons in Podunk,,, we are talking about the best in the US. Many will say that agressive application of technology is not safe... maybe they are right... maybe it's because they don't have any experience in that arena or cannot offer such options? I don't remember enough about your case to comment, but I'd gather opinions and evaluate everything. These are tough decisions. The numbers I've heard are that 1/3 of the patients with myelopathic symptoms will not get relief from decompressing the spinal cord. Your question prompted me to contact my one client who had severe and long-standing myelopathic symptoms prior to his 2-level cervical ADR, now almost 2 years ago. He had waited too long with SEVERE gait problems for more than a year before his surgery. He was not in pain, so it was easy for him to wait. He considers the surgery a success even though he still has his severely altered gait. His symptoms did not get worse, although his gait did not improve. He still has no pain from his c-spine, but feels like he's not longer at risk of paralysis from a minor fall or auto accident. The cord compression is resolved, but unfortunately, the damage appears to be permanent. I'm not sure how this relates to your question except that in this one extreme case, there is no 'rebound myelopathy'. I've seen increases in radicular symptoms in some cervical procedures, as we do in some lumbar procedures. I think that the incidence in cervical is lower and like lumbar, it almost always fades in a few days, weeks, or months. I've not seen increases in myelopathic symptoms in my clients, but the number of folks with real myelopathy has been low, so I don't know how relevant my experience is. Remember all the "I'm not a doctor" diclaimer stuff... I'm just sharing my limited experience... take everything I say with a grain of salt, check it out and make your own decisions... All the best. Mark
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1997 MVA 2000 L4-5 Microdiscectomy/laminotomy 2001 L5-S1 Micro-d/lami 2002 L4-S1 Charite' ADR - SUCCESS! 2009 C3-C4, C5-C6-C7, T1-T2 ProDisc-C Nova Summer 2009, more bad thoracic discs! Life After Surgery Website President: Global Patient Network, Inc. Founder: www.iSpine.org |
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Mark,
Thanks for the reply. There's always plenty of conflicting opinions about ADR vs fusion, but then add to that the conflicting opinions about whether surgery is indicated at all as well and it makes it very difficult for the patient. It would also be easy for the fusion proponents to point to failed ADR for myelopathy situations as an example, but the reality is (from what I can tell in the various studies I've looked through) that fusion also often fails for these situations as well. The conflicting opinions have caused me a lot of trouble - particularly when well regarded surgeons strongly express an opinion, its difficult to ignore it even though your gut, knowledge of your own symptoms, and your own research is telling you otherwise. With this complex situation its easy to see why cord compression patients often end up leaving it far too long to have surgery. Rob.
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snowboarding injury 1997 landed on head, some subluxation of cervical vertebrae no surgery, some ongoing neck and shoulder pain but bearable. surfing injury 2004 - transient paralysis from neck down for 15 seconds, resolved fully - herniated c5/c6 disc plus some bulging at c3/4/5. Initially had dermatome pain after injury which resolved - general parasthesia in arms/legs was fairly mild after injury but has been worsening. |
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