Go Back   ISPINE.ORG Forum > Main forums > iSpine
FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

iSpine Discuss Blue Cross Payment 3-level Activ-L in the Main forums forums; I have a client who's spine was a complete train wreck. He went to Zeegers in earlier this year ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 11-18-2006, 09:01 PM
mmglobal's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,511
Default Blue Cross Payment 3-level Activ-L

I have a client who's spine was a complete train wreck. He went to Zeegers in earlier this year and had a 3-level Activ-L. I don't mean that he just needed a 3-level.. his spine was really messed up.

Because of the mailing for the Zeegers party tomorrow, we reconnected.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Excerpts from his email:
Back doesn't hurt; posture better; walking better; ability to sit vastly improved; etc. Still some referred pain, would do better if exercised more. It has been a most eventful year, surgery; slower recovery than predicted.

Reminder: Federal employee with Blue Cross Medical Insurance. On inquiry prior to surgery, I was told that some of the costs in Germany might be covered; I should submit all medical costs; but most certainly, I would have to appeal. (Mark redacted actual dollar amounts, but he received well over 40K in reimbursement.)

So, I sent in the claim. I did not request reimbursement of expenses for GPC, airfare, hotel, etc., just medications and treatment. On the initial request, with no appeal. I still get goose bumps, I am so astounded! So, I am out about $8,000. This sort of good fortune has always eluded me.
He'll come and post more and has offered to share his well-prepared case if needed.

With any luck, he'll be at Zeegers' party tomorrow.

Mark
__________________
1997 MVA
2000 L4-5 Microdiscectomy/laminotomy
2001 L5-S1 Micro-d/lami
2002 L4-S1 Charite' ADR - SUCCESS!
2009 C3-C4, C5-C6-C7, T1-T2 ProDisc-C Nova
Summer 2009, more bad thoracic discs!
Life After Surgery Website
President: Global Patient Network, Inc.
Founder: www.iSpine.org
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 11-19-2006, 01:58 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Kodiak, Alaska
Posts: 4
Default

Mark,

I'm very interested about the $8,000.00 amount. Are you saying that was his cost for the surgery? I am really looking forward to speaking with the patient who had surgery with Dr. Zeegers. See you tomorrow. Eric

P.S. It's still blowing , but only at 30 to 40 mph. It's about 22 degrees out so it has warmed up. It's supposed to blow 60 tomorrow so I am leaving just in time. I'm not looking forward to the turbulence tonight. It's supposed to be bumpy all the way to the west coast. My back will be a mess when I get to L.A.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 11-26-2006, 04:30 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 9
Default Blue Shield

Mark,

As you know Blue Shield intially paid for my Charite surgery in 2005 then rescinded payment 6 months later. I hired a lawyer and fought them and got them to change their minds and give the money back. So in the end, Blue Shield (Washington state) paid for my Charite in full.

I was out a few thousand in legal expenses, but it sure beat paying $50k (maybe more). My situation was very unique, as the case centered around the pre-certification (which they pre-certified). Blue Shield argued it wasn't done correctly and so had the right to reverse the claims and rescind payment. It was a long drawn out painful process, but I am glad that I prevailed.

Dan
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 11-26-2006, 09:47 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Ohio
Posts: 146
Default

Mark,

I believe that insurance companies are beginning to "warm up" to the idea of sending patients abroad for procedures because they .... well lets face it....cost less. I will try to find the article. I think I know where it is at.

I will come back and post the link....
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 11-29-2006, 05:20 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,405
Default here's hoping

That I can get WCAB CA. to pay for surgery abroad. I'd happily pay airfare, Mark's costs and so forth just to get the surgery and stay covered which quoted for 3 levels is nearly half of what a hybrid (ADR and fusion) at 2 levels would cost where I've been here in CA.
My plan is submit cost estimate of everything and info re follow up doc (not secured yet) and hope that WC can see that they'd save a pretty good sum of $$ yet be sending me to one of the most experienced spine surgeons doing ADR. If not this, than probably one of most experienced spine surgeons here in U.S. which WC is working on currently~
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 11-29-2006, 05:31 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Southern California
Posts: 65
Default

Maria, I think we have met...maybe about four or five years ago, in a park in Huntington Beach. Cervie Queen, Mark, and others were there, too. We walked and had lunch.

I am also a WC patient and faced with a two-level ADR. Could you please share your WC journey with me? I am going to see an attorney today and would like to jumpstart the approval process. My e-mail address is AguilarKL@aol.com
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 03-13-2007, 04:02 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 3
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mmglobal View Post
I have a client who's spine was a complete train wreck. He went to Zeegers in earlier this year and had a 3-level Activ-L. I don't mean that he just needed a 3-level.. his spine was really messed up.

Because of the mailing for the Zeegers party tomorrow, we reconnected.



He'll come and post more and has offered to share his well-prepared case if needed.

With any luck, he'll be at Zeegers' party tomorrow.

Mark
Mark,

Any chance you could put me in touch with this guy? I have BC/BS Federal Employee insurance, and am contemplating a 3-level ADR with Dr. B.

Thanks,
Kirk
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 03-15-2007, 01:03 AM
mmglobal's Avatar
Administrator
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,511
Default

Kirk, per your request, I just sent your email address to him. Hopefully, you'll hear soon. If not, let me know and I'll call him.

Mark
__________________
1997 MVA
2000 L4-5 Microdiscectomy/laminotomy
2001 L5-S1 Micro-d/lami
2002 L4-S1 Charite' ADR - SUCCESS!
2009 C3-C4, C5-C6-C7, T1-T2 ProDisc-C Nova
Summer 2009, more bad thoracic discs!
Life After Surgery Website
President: Global Patient Network, Inc.
Founder: www.iSpine.org
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 08:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.