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iSpine Discuss News - Is costlier spinal surgery worth it? in the Main forums forums; Is costlier spinal surgery worth it? By Carla K. Johnson Associated Press CHICAGO - A study of Medicare patients shows that ... |
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![]() This type of conversation about spine care is about 20 years behind the rest of the world.....
-Jeff
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19+ years back pain w/ advancing disc degeneration. 2002-2 level lumbar IDET w/ Nucleoplasty (very unsuccessful; huge setback) Three level lumbar Charite (L3/4, L4/5, L5/S1) with Dr. Zeegers in Munich, Germany: 2/25/05 (successful) Two level cervical Mobi-C (C5/6, C6/7) 2/2/07 with Dr. Zeegers (successful) Laser Facet Coagulation (left side: L3/4, L4/5, L5/S1 & sacral) 11/04/10 with Prof. Dr. Reul / Beta Klinik (significant reduction in remnant lumbar & sacral pain) |
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![]() Not in every area, but most. It's a real eye opener when, like you, a person begins research into medical information from a world-wide point of view; just wanting to become educated as a patient.
We take our doctor's word as truth for so many things in the US, when in reality, in terms of healthcare, we are way behind many parts of the world. I was shocked when I began my research many years ago. -Jeff
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19+ years back pain w/ advancing disc degeneration. 2002-2 level lumbar IDET w/ Nucleoplasty (very unsuccessful; huge setback) Three level lumbar Charite (L3/4, L4/5, L5/S1) with Dr. Zeegers in Munich, Germany: 2/25/05 (successful) Two level cervical Mobi-C (C5/6, C6/7) 2/2/07 with Dr. Zeegers (successful) Laser Facet Coagulation (left side: L3/4, L4/5, L5/S1 & sacral) 11/04/10 with Prof. Dr. Reul / Beta Klinik (significant reduction in remnant lumbar & sacral pain) |
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![]() Anthony, thanks for posting.
These types of discussions are interesting. It reminds me of the statistic that 70% of the people who are treated for mental illness recover AND 70% of the people who are not treated for mental illness recover. The numbers suggest that treating mental illness is pointless. I see similar studies with spine. In my mind, they drive home the point that if you need spine surgery, you are in trouble. However, none of the numbers speak to individual cases. If you don't mind, I'll move this post from the surgical outcomes and blogs forum and give it a more descriptive title. Thanks again for participating... all the best, Mark
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1997 MVA 2000 L4-5 Microdiscectomy/laminotomy 2001 L5-S1 Micro-d/lami 2002 L4-S1 Charite' ADR - SUCCESS! 2009 C3-C4, C5-C6-C7, T1-T2 ProDisc-C Nova Summer 2009, more bad thoracic discs! Life After Surgery Website President: Global Patient Network, Inc. Founder: www.iSpine.org |
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![]() This paper is what greatly elevated my fears of spine surgery, taking also into account the huge costs and risks (ADR or fusion). The doctors involved appear to have excellent credentials.
"Copyright © 2007 by British Editorial Society of Bone and Joint Surgery Survival and clinical outcome of SB Charité III disc replacement for back pain R. Ross, MBChB, FRCS(Ed), FRACS, Spinal Surgeon1; A. H. Mirza, MBChB, MRCS(Ed), Spinal Fellow1; H. E. Norris, BA(Hons), RGN, Research Nurse1; and M. Khatri, MS(Orth), FRCS(Tr & Orth), Consultant Spinal & Orthopaedic Surgeon1 1 Salford Royal NHS Foundation Trust, Eccles Old Road, Salford, Manchester M6 8HD, UK. Correspondence should be sent to Mr R. Ross; e-mail: ersross@hotmail.co.uk Between January 1990 and December 2000 we carried out 226 SB Charité III disc replacements for lumbar disc degeneration in 160 patients. They were reviewed at a mean follow-up of 79 months (31 to 161) to determine the clinical and radiological outcome. The clinical results were collected by an independent observer, who was not involved in patient selection, treatment or follow-up, using a combination of outcome measures, including the Oswestry Disability Index. Pain was recorded using a visual analogue score, and the most recent radiographs were reviewed. Survival of the device was analysed by the Kaplan-Meier method and showed a cumulative survival of 35% at 156 months when radiological failure was taken as the endpoint. The mean improvement in the Oswestry disability index scores after disc replacement was 14% (6% to 21%) and the mean improvement in the pain score was 1.6 (0.46 to 2.73), both falling below the clinically significant threshold. Removal of the implant was required in 12 patients, four because of implant failure. These poor results indicate that further use of this implant is not justified." |
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